David Daleiden took the stand for all of day 12 of the civil trial Planned Parenthood vs. CMP et al. His testimony provided insight into the months of research Daleiden conducted prior to any undercover work.
- Defense attorney Charles Limandri asked Daleiden about eye-witness accounts of babies born alive. In his explanation of what Perrin Larton, Procurement Manager for Plaintiff Planned Parenthood Pacific Southwest business partner ABR, told him about her experiences harvesting fetal tissue, Daleiden said the following:
She (Larton) was describing a situation where she was specifically waiting for the abortion to finish so that she could procure the fetal organs and tissues afterwards. And she described being surprised that the patient was out of the operating room in three minutes, because that seemed like too short a time. And so she’s wondering, you know: Where’s my fetal tissue? Because I’m waiting here, and she’s gone in three minutes; what’s going on? And then the clinic told her: Well, the fetus was already in the vaginal canal; when we put her in the stirrups, it just fell out.
And so my understanding is that this — she was describing a harvesting case. A case where she was waiting for the fetus for harvesting. That would mean that the digoxin (a drug that kills the baby inside the womb) had not been used; the feticide could not be used because that would fill the fetus and spoil the organs before they could be harvested.
- Prior to going undercover, Daleiden consulted with stem cell research scientist Dr. Theresa Deisher. Dr. Deisher confirmed to Daleiden that a study from Stanford University that obtained fetal hearts from StemExpress and kept them Langendorff perfusion technique required the heart be beating at the time it was harvested from the aborted baby.
- Daleiden also testified that before launching CMP’s undercover investigation, he learned that Plaintiff Planned Parenthood Mar Monte’s abortion provider Dr. Ronald Berman was simultaneously working as the Medical Director for StemExpress, while StemExpress was buying fetal tissue from PPMM.
- Defense attorney Harmeet Dhillon questioned Daleiden about the exhibit contracts from the National Abortion Federation trade shows. Planned Parenthood has made the NAF contracts central to their case, but the NAF contracts never mention Planned Parenthood as a party to the agreement, and are written as regulations for the order of trade show event, not ongoing proprietary secret agreements.
Proceedings continue at 8:00 A.M. on Thursday, October 31, in San Francisco Federal District Court at 450 Golden Gate Ave, San Francisco, CA 94102, in Courtroom 2 on Floor 17.